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Father not involved in child’s life? A dad explains: “Why I don’t see my child”

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Mention the fatherless epidemic in the United States, and the arguments are polarizing. We hear things like “Father refuses to see child” or “Father not involved in child’s life.” These issues can be especially thorny during the holidays.

It’s easy to fall into stereotypes about deadbeat or indifferent dads, but I discovered the issue is quite complicated:

Father not involved in child’s life? A look into why fathers walk away after divorce

It is either:

  1. Men are irresponsible douchebags who abandon their children to mothers, who are left to raise the children with few resources, or …
  2. Women are conniving, malicious, entitled nut-jobs who alienate fathers from their children while taking all said fathers' money — all of which is supported by the family court system.

However, as we unpack in this article, the real reasons are more complicated, complex and human. Men after all, are marginalized as inferior or at least secondary parents, a fact that is codified in family court when mothers are nearly always granted primary time with children — a power position that means men and dads are officially a lesser parent. 

Read: My advice to moms and dads whose other parent is not involved

Why do fathers give up?

This post challenges a cultural assumption that men willingly walk out on their children and are irresponsible, apathetic parents. Instead, we all suffer under a sexist culture and legal system that marginalizes fathers, and makes it hard if not impossible for them to be meaningfully involved with their children, for reasons including:

  • Sexist culture that does not value or support dads, or prime boys to grow up to expect to be involved, meaningful parts of their children's lives
  • Family and divorce courts that favor mothers=
  • Parental alienation, in which one parent turns the kids against the other parent
  • One dad's compelling story about why he doesn't see his kids (keep reading)
  • Many dads don't believe the child is theirs or were tricked into fatherhood, or otherwise felt they did not decide to father the child.

853 reader comments and counting on this post tell a story about how prevelant fatherlessness is, how passionate people feel about its reasons and results — and how varied and nuanced those reasons can be.


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How can a father walk out on his child?

After studying this issue for the four years I've had this blog, I understand that the issue is complicated and nuanced. Men walk out on their child for many reasons, including:

  • They never wanted to be a dad in the first place but were trapped 
  • They have been marginalized by our culture and court system to every-other-weekend parents, which is more painful than walking away and starting a new life that promises more joy 
  • Conflict with the child’s mother is too difficult to navigate 
  • They feel unworthy of parenthood, and feel like walking away is the best thing for the child 
  • The father never had a strong father figure, does not feel competent as a dad nor understand how important his role is.

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A father's experience with parental alienation

What I haven't reported much is the point of view from the checked-out dads, many of whom have shared with me articulate, thoughtful, and often heart-breaking accounts of why they are not part of their children's lives.

These stories resonate with me, as they have challenged my earlier, blind admonishments that every parent has a moral obligation to fight for their children, no matter what.

I still believe this, but I also believe in empathy, and for recognizing each other's humanity.

Here is one story from a reader, John G:

Point of view from a dad who doesn't see his child

From my own experiences, I believe it's widespread for women to use children as a weapon to exact revenge against the ex during, and after, divorce proceedings.

During my lengthy divorce, my ex-wife claimed I was abusive, that she was ‘afraid for her safety,’ and tried to get ‘supervised visitation.’

None of it worked, because it wasn’t true, and because, as an educated professional I had enough money to spend six figures on an attorney.

However, it was still a waste of time and money. Even after the divorce, the games continued.

My son was being tutored on what to say to me (did you ever hear a 7-year-old respond ‘I’m not comfortable talking about that’ when asked a question?) and being instructed to call me by my first name and not ‘dad.’ I grew tired of making phone calls that weren’t answered, or of being put on hold and the child not coming to the phone, and of canceled visits.

It was heartbreaking seeing the child slip away from me, little by little.

I went to court on several occasions. There is the assumption that the man will just sit there and take the abuse because he does not want to lose the child.

She stuck by the letter of the law, and was able to severely limit my contact with my son by way of orders of protection and maintaining to the courts that he was a ‘danger.’

Related: This is the real reason your ex doesn’t see the kids

Orders of protection as divorce strategy

Of the divorced, professional men that I know, all of them had orders of protection against them by their wives.

This is even a problem that is recognized by the courts. Some attorneys go so far as to admit that the ‘afraid for my safety’ issue is part of the ‘gamesmanship of divorce.’ I went from the mindset of being a father to the child, to being reduced to the status of a ‘visiting uncle’ or a ‘Disneyland dad’ allied with thinking all the time like an attorney.

I was often worried what would happen if she started to make untrue claims that I had (for example) abused the child. When he fell over and scraped his arm when he was with me, I was advised by my attorney to go to all the trouble of going to the doctor, having the scrape bandaged and so on, just to legally cover myself in case she would claim that it had in fact been intentionally caused.

While on the lookout for anything that could be used against me, all the while constantly being told I was a bad person, a bad father, and all my involvement with my son was systematically stripped away. The whole process became a painful sham.

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Father refuses to see his child? Not quite …

I eventually reached a crossroads with four paths. Some men commit suicide because they can’t handle the anguish. Others resort to violence and anger against the ex-wife. Others take the difficult road, and sacrifice years of their happiness, battling on a hopeless battle with the ex, just to maintain some sort of contact with the kids. The fourth way, is to simply give up, and decide that the cost to the child through seeing the conflict, and to oneself, is too high.

I considered all the above paths for a long time and was tempted by more than a few of them. In the end, I walked away from all contact with my child more than two years ago.

What to do when the non-custodial parent doesn't show up or cancels last minute

Mother keeping child away from father

After I had calmed down, I tried again and contacted the ex. I had hoped she would have calmed down and would be willing to work with me.

But no, she is still the same bitter and vengeful baggage that she always was. Rather than attempting to discuss things and put things on the right track, she is willing to communicate in writing only.

She refuses point blank to let me contact the child. Everything has to go through her.

Some people will say it would be the noblest thing to carry on fighting regardless. ‘I would do anything for my kids!’ they spout.

Frankly, I feel that’s very naive and is almost always a view propagated by women.

Any father here who has been generously granted a weekend every two weeks knows the feeling when you say goodbye.

You’re just getting used to having them around, and they are gone. It’s like having a wound that never heals. Like a band-aid being ripped off over and over. The pain never really went away.

During those days, I used to recall these lines from Shakespeare's King John:

Grief fills the room up of my absent child,

Lies in his bed, walks up and down with me,

Puts on his pretty looks, repeats his words,

Remembers me of all his gracious parts,

Stuffs out his vacant garments with his form;

Logically, I have to balance the damage to myself, my life and mental health, the possibility of the conflict damaging the child, against the damage done by my absence.

People who don’t know the situation raise their hands in horror, or pass judgment, assume that this is a choice that is taken lightly and easily. It is not.

There isn’t a day that goes by that I don’t think about it. Sometimes I see children in shops that look like my child and find it hard not to break down.

Sometimes I can’t take my eyes away. Even the shoes are the same. I don’t like to watch movies with children of that age in them.

I had to remove all the photographs that I had of my child and every other item and put them in a box. And that’s where all those emotions are now.

In a box, held tightly under control, so that I can try and enjoy some semblance of a normal life. It usually works.

I spoke to my ex recently. She claims that the child is just fine. She doesn’t seem to think that I’m needed and believes that my seeing the child is a bad thing.

She told me that the gifts I had been sending postally were in a box and he never got them. What is the point of trying? Who am I to argue?

She lives with the kid and does the real parenting. All that I could do, once a month or less (she lives a long way from me) would be to visit for a shallow shared visit, a museum trip perhaps – that’s not parenting – that’s just being a Disneyland dad.

I am in despair that many people and the courts expect the impossible. They expect the man to be totally interested, committed, involved with his child’s life – and yet – they make it impossible for that involvement to happen.

How can you remain interested and involved when you are given no information about the child’s everyday life, when even the most basic contact is made difficult or impossible, when you are limited to four days a month contact time if you are lucky?

In far too many cases, the father is merely viewed as a source of income.

The mother is viewed as the ‘real parent’ who almost always gets physical custody of the child. And once she has the child, she is then almost entirely free of the threat of any consequences.

Related: What is parental alienation?

Impact on a child’s life when a father isn’t involved

This is a great shame for the children involved who will probably be involved in divorces of their own or be afraid of marriage because they have seen the consequences when they fail.

I shouldn’t be surprised if more and more men eschew marriage and traditional family values over the next century.

Personally, I refuse to be blackmailed by my better instincts. I refuse to be reduced to the level of a Disneyland dad by some judge, attorney, social worker or indeed his mother.

I refuse to beg for access, or beg for photographs, or ask permission when I can please take him on vacation.

No. They will have no more of me.

One day, I will be able to get in touch without going through her once the child is old enough. Until then, I intend to get on with my life.

Please listen to Terry Brennan, co-founder of Leading Women for Shared Parenting, explain why default every-other-weekend visitation leads to absentee fathers:

Note that in cases where ‘standard’ visitation is awarded — every-other-weekend — fathers become depressed and non-involved, and within 3 years, one study found, 40 percent of children in an unequal visitation arrangement had lost complete touch with their non-custodial parents, which are nearly always the father.

Have a listen:

Bottom line: Father not involved in child’s life? Try to make co-parenting work.

If you are tempted to turn your child against the other parent, or not sure what is the best kind of parenting time arrangement, keep it simple, and equal. In fact, there are now more than 60 studies that prove that equally shared parenting is best for children (and, moms and dads!).

While we're at it, have a read about why a simple, fair 50-50 shared parenting time with no child support is the best, fairest, and most feminist arrangement.

To prevent this kind of trauma, here are some tips to how to make co-parenting work:

  • Accept that mothers and fathers are equal. This is a gender equality issue
  • Accept that just because the other person doesn't parent like you do, that is not abuse.
  • Let him fail, succeed and find his own parenting style. Many dads become better fathers after divorce because they have to.
  • When communicating with him, use ‘your house' and ‘my house' … not ‘Home.' Same when you address the kids – “daddy's house” and “my house.” Both places are their homes..
  • Keep him posted on matters large and small. Even if he doesn't show up for the teacher meetings, or make the doctors’ appointments, keep him abreast of what is happening with the kids.
  • Buy him holiday and birthday presents on behalf of the kids.  

But the bigger challenge is to change our culture, from one in which it is presumed that fathers are incompetent, and mothers are the default primary parent. Terry Brennan of Leading Women for Shared Parenting, and an equality activist. Listen to our podcast conversation:

For more on co-parenting communication, and reasons for better shared parenting, read: Co-parenting rules–even with a difficult ex

What do you think? Are you a dad who no longer sees his kids? Why? Please share in the comments …

Or, are you the mother of a child with an absentee father? What is your response?

Why do fathers give up?

This post challenges a cultural assumption that men willingly walk out on their children and are irresponsible, apathetic parents. Instead, we all suffer under a sexist culture and legal system that marginalizes fathers, and makes it hard if not impossible for them to be meaningfully involved with their children.

How can a father walk out on his child?

After studying this issue for years, I understand that the issue is complicated and nuanced, and there is plenty of legitimate room for both of these points of view. What I haven't reported much is the point of view from the checked-out dads, many of whom have shared with me articulate, thoughtful, and often heart-breaking accounts of why they are not part of their children's lives.

931 Comments

I found this when I searched online to try and figure out how my ex-soninlaw can treat his children so poorly when he only has them two days a month. It ate my daughter up inside when they split and he gradually over the past two years has worked very hard to get out of any visitation. We know that one day the children will be old enough to understand that daddy really doesn’t want to be bothered, and we are dreading it.

My daughter tried to talk to him again about picking up his children on Friday rather than Saturday and having them for dinner on Thursday, but he said one day every two weeks is enough. By the way, he wants my daughter to help him to lower his child support too. I seriously think he would give up all rights and visitation if he didn’t have to pay child support any longer. But what can you expect from a man who was whining to my daughter two days after their first child was born that he didn’t think he wanted family life, and two weeks after their little boy was born he said, “You wanted him, so you take care of him.” A few short years later he was telling my daughter to move back home with us because he needed to think. I said no initially and offered to put him up in a hotel, but he snickered at the idea because it wasn’t an expensive one. Finally, they came to my home because he told my daughter that he wanted a divorce. My daughter was devastated and heartbroken, but she couldn’t figure out why he didn’t want to spend more time with the children. You can see it was painfully obvious to everyone but her that he had told her the truth all along. He didn’t want a family. Things were fine as long as she could be there for him at a moments notice, but when she had to divide up her time, he wanted out.

I feel for the kids. The ones that are going to grow up without their dad because mommy is a bitch, and the ones that will grow up without a dad because their dad is an absentee prick. Kids can recover from divorce and thrive if both parents get their heads out of their asses and put their children first even if having a family wasn’t something you wanted or didn’t plan to do with your life. There is no reason to take it out on innocent children.

My ex is, what I think, a real narcissist. He emotionally abused me and the kids over the years. During the divorce he made an effort to see a psychologist to “help us all” to get through it. Of course he was “nice” at the time and I really thought he was trying his best to be a better father. I trusted him. I was fooled once again. This was all just putting up a facade. He made promises he never kept after the divorce.

I want to know what should be done. All I read on the internet about absent fathers are where the mothers are alienating their children or keeping the children from seeing the father. My biggest wish for my kids are for them to have a father who cares.

My kids have depression, all related back to how they were treated by their narcissistic father. The youngest is not coping too well and was admitted for his suicidal depression moods. He told the psychiatrist that he hates his father. I assume his father told lies to the psychiatrist because the psychiatrist told me and our son that his dad promised that he will never stop trying to have a good relationship with his son. It is not happening. He keeps ignoring our son and make him feel bad. The father is never home or available during his visitation weekends or his school holidays. I dont understand how a parent can throw away his kids and not bother to care about them. On the divorce settlement it states that he has the kids every second weekend and every second school holiday.

What can I do? Because at the moment I feel like sueing him for neglecting the children or something.

I’m in the same boat, my ex has been with the kids everyday for 8 yrs. Now about 9 months ago just walked out . He has not one time called not even for our sons birthday . I feel so bad for my kids! And also don’t know what to tell them.
Good luck I know it’s a hard road.

Hi Aimee. My situation isn’t the same but it’s just as heartbreaking.

I feel for you. I don’t know how you go on after so long.

My ex, after almost 8 years and two kids (ages 8 / 4. The 8 year old is my stepson), said one Thursday afternoon (while still living with us) that he was going on a family vacation for the weekend and would be back on Monday.

But Monday came and went.

I found out on Thursday from one of his brothers — after 3 days of being worried sick + battling debilitating anxiety— that he’s decided to “explore around” for a while.

Now It’s been 8 weeks.
I haven’t talked to him once.

He’s called a couple times— strategically though— letting it ring once, so he can hang up before I can get to it.

Presumably so he can say he tried.

I can’t even process the emotions I feel because there are too many.

My poor daughter doesn’t understand why daddy doesn’t cuddle her every night anymore or take her to her big brother’s baseball games.

I’d do anything to hear him say he wants to be in her life. How could he not?!

She’s so amazing and unique and beautiful and the way she thinks tummys are funny is so charming.

But…sometimes she cries at night saying she wishes she could have one more little goodnight kiss.

“Just one, mommy,” she says.

He shattered everything we had worked for and dreamed for the past 8 years, and transformed it into a life of insurmountable bills, unending anxiety, and a novel sized list of unanswered questions.

I felt sorry for myself at first and wondered how I could go on.

And then…I calmly went through each room of the house, gathered his belongings, placed them in a taped box in the garage with his name on it, and walked away.

Im at the point now where no matter how bad I feel or how much I want to crawl under the covers and disappear, I show up. I show up for her.

I show up everyday and I try my best to hide the scars and wipe the tears while letting the pain mercilessly rip through my body.

I want to numb it, mask it and not feel anything, but I don’t.

I feel all of it.
Every rip.
Every slice.
Every scar.
Every broken promise.
Every broken dream.

Why?

Because wounds eventually heal. And when they do, you’re stronger than before.

You can do this girl. I can too.

And if you ever need someone to talk to, I’m here.

ALMOST needed up this way. My daughter is only 5 but he thought no matter what he did (broken visits, no financial support, physical and verbal abuse) that I would keep bring our child around. After he hit me and pushed my child down trying to hurt me I walked away. I stopped TRYING to MAKE A VISIT HAPPEN, STOPPED TRYING TO FORCE HIM TO BE INVOLVED. Forcing a man to do what he doesnt want to do can be dangerous and lead to a violent even deadly situation. Best advice I have is PULL THE KIDS NOW. Make sure they know every day it’s not their fault. You will have to make up for that lost love (as best you can). I refused to let a man run in and out my childs life, that’s not healthy for their mental emotional growth. She knows him BECAUSE OF ME, and he stops by every OTHER BIRTHDAY. I dont FORCE ANYTHING. She calls him by his real name, and I dont correct her. If he acted like a father, she would treat him as such. But since he is just a passing stranger …welp…. its painful. And i wont deny i spent many nights blaming myself, and who i CHOSE TO PROCREATE WITH! BUT THAT TOO SHALL PASS.GOD BLESS

all this is why I chose to stay single and childless. I saw this happen to too many men I knew growing up and later as an adult .

Have not seen my daughter in almost seven years.My ex wife always wanted to have complete control.she was granted full custody and is now remarried to a guy that has more money and probably is a better provider,funny thing and I do not mean this in a sexist way but why do women and money go hand in hand? Anyway I checked out of my children’s lives altogether a long time ago have not talked to my daughter in well over four years and have not seen her in almost seven.Iam not saying it’s fair especially for my kids,we have a son and daughter.you just go numb to it.the Courts could not give a shit because at the end of the day they make Large profits on broken families.I have turned to Alcohol,pills and other substances to medicate myself which clearly isn’t the answer.Ive thought of suicide even wrapped a belt around my neck just to see if I had the balls to hook it on something sturdy and let gravity do it’s thing. I have just accepted to be estranged,from my ex the kids,not because I do not love my kids but it’s less painful to be absent than to be controlled.I wish any men reading this to know you are not alone.it’s sick really we have celebrities advocating 9-11 victims and families to Congress which in itself is sad and I do not mean disrespect but we need laws to enrich the lives of all parents to their children and not laws to wedge families apart.I have truly and sadly given up hope.Checking out has seemed to work so far,Iam not telling people to do this just explaining my own situation.I wish all good fathers who are going through this to stay strong I know it hurts one sweet day maybe we can see our babies and let them know that we really did care. God bless all who are in pain because of distanced relations whether it be man or woman and most of all God bless our children who may unfortunately not have their real heroes involved in their lives.thank you

Well said, dad John G.
Never thought I would write a comment on a page called “wealthysinglemommy”. The suicide option is shocking, does anyone care? Divorce is lose-lose-lose-lose: man, woman, kids, next generations. Adele recently announced her divorce. That’s part of marketing and the ‘I need to be happy bubble’. From all cases I know, there are not many with a well-working Disneyland situation. It’s sort of a dream of “we all happily procreate and be loving each other in the world, as happy children of god” but nature doesn’t work like this. Anyhow, do yourself and everyone a big favor: learn to shut up. learn to listen. no alcohol, no violence, no robotic texting, no blaming, no games, just stick to cool and calm. Accept the day and let good deeds speak. Momento mori. Understand yourself and others, your sins: jealousy, etc. and kill it! It’s your only hope to vitalize yourself, to maximize your good mindset, to work on virtues and ethics that you can become better. Watch what nature is doing: watch birds couples; one day everyone flies, the parents, the little ones. We do not create life because of laws, but because of our nature. Every time you react, understand this as big learning opportunity, but still have your values and integrity as you’re your best adviser. Stay on top “women vs men” or “him vs me”: imagine every situation could be reversed. Create context: did your (ex-) partner stab you or is it just opinions that seem to kill? Eat healthy. Sleep. Do moderate sports. Know your life-style, the way how you work with people and communities, how you communicate and negotiate. You cannot change that, you can only drop unhealthy behaviors by retraining your brain. Being asap and let answers come to questions like “why I don’t see my kids” as this is the immediate talk or question, but it is more important what your core frequency is doing, ie. your heart beat. Listen to it.

There is a lot of women on here trying to steal the limelight from the father’s experience. Which only proves how controlling these mother’s can be. They can’t stand to hear anyone elses side but their own. The article was for Dads who are going through this.

At one point I had primary physical custody of my son. Then, as I was transitioning to a new job; All he’ll broke loose. Nevermind that I had just returned from an out of state vacation 5 months earlier. My ex wife accused me of kidnapping my son. We we’re going to the San Diego zoo. She also said I was going to “sacrifice” him.

Next thing I knew I was served with having a hearing in 10 days to determine my rights. So now I’m using a 401k distribution to not only pay standard bills, but a lawyer.

I was ordered to create a family tree, and also my ex wife denied knowing anybody that we mutually knew. So I was ordered supervised visits as her as the monitor, or I could pay $300 each for admin, and then $50 an hour.
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I couldn’t handle this. I’ll admit it. I couldn’t handle how insane this was. I partied and ended up in a hospital, having three life saving surgeries on my leg. My ex said I was making all this up. I finally made it to a final court hearing. Explained why I missed the previous ones. In hospital.

I had nothing left. All materialistic and relationship gone. I started from scratch.

I met a beautiful woman, I thought. She had a daughter the same age as my son. I was introduced to something I never had as a child. We regularly ate lunch with her parents, went to church, holidays. Actual family holidays. And eventually my ex decided I could have my son visit, since there was another mother that allowed me to be around her child.

Horrible events hapo need that I won’t say. Horrible. Heartbreaking.

Both of us responsible. Yet the dagger.. Is we move into a new place, and I am told I need to move out. It was a 3br. My new woman had decided that she didn’t want me there, only wanted her daughter there on weekends, and didn’t want my son there at all.

I’m not old, but I’m damn to ok’d to try and recreate an environment to see my son on weekends. It’s going on four years now.

Now I’m in a studio apt. I keep my son’s pictures up. I read somewhere a Dad saying being a Disneyland Dad. Honestly, I had to come to terms that I’m not a good person. I saw my son as a sweet boy. He behaved like it. I didn’t behave like that, as my parents act like me. I realized I didn’t want my son around a man with mental disorder. I realized I shouldn’t be around my ex gf daughter. I have cone to accept life on life’s terms. I made bad decisions, and I have consequences. My child support is current, he has health, dental, and vision, and I have TONS of pictures and videos of me and my son from 1 – 6 years old.

I’ve come to accept that I don’t have much to offer a woman or a child. That’s not self pity. That is acceptance. The reality in life is some people aren’t playing with a full deck.

Mentally. That’s me. I’m sure some think that it’s BS. But I write my son, I call, and I let him know values, but that he will be successful if he loves himself.

I’m not going to be one of those people living in my eighties. My son will be my sole inheritor to my life savings in 30 years. I live as meager as possible and put as much back for him.

All I can do now is keep going on and try and be there for him in the next phase of his life. Teens and early 20’s.

Life is as Life does. Life is difficult. And that’s okay.

Let’s get REAL here…..Divorce is usually ugly and suppose to be about how to settle taking care of your children financially fair and equally share your children’s time with eachother as seperate parents.
Since you both cant trust eachother for whatever reasons, the Divorce courts put it on paper for you to follow so both parties are not throwing their selfish emotional motives at eachother ultimately getting no where….except damaging your children in the process of being immature, resentful and angry in front of your impressionable children….with that being said…..
A bigger picture to consider is that obviously just because you both could not be a Married Couple does not always make either horrible parents….and with that we need to really dig deep and be honest with ourselves when we act on situations negatively that we know in our hearts that our ex spouses aren’t bad parents or bad people WE just weren’t a good Married Couple and not good for eachother or to eachother…and the reality is it hurts and were angry and our emotions become tactics to get back at eachother “mud slinging” maybe more maybe calculated ways to make you suffer for what you did as husband or wife? Either way let’s be honest….if there was really NO abuse…No Neglect…No alcoholic abuse….No Cheating….Nothing major, except that you just couldnt get the marriage to work and the Father or Mother WANT to be a part of the child’s life that YOU both Created and most likely the ONLY GREAT thing you both did RIGHT while married, why not celebrate eachother for the one thing in your lives as a married couple that WORKED????
I get it….Divorce sucks and we get so wrapped up in the “who does more, pays enough or who is better for the child!!!
As a parent we need validation and money to give them the best and nothing will be enough from either of you in each others eyes.
What you do for your children as a divorced parent will always seem to be a competition and it’s not. I just have seen and know alot of people who are divorced and the Father and even Mothers just give up their rights to their children because of these reasons and they cant afford to fight or they have just bashed each others reputations to friends and family who repeat these damaging things so much, your children grow up hearing and believing it’s TRUE about their Fathers or Mothers.
It saddens me to see this happen to so many Fathers and Mothers who truly just weren’t good married couples but would be loving parents!!!
If we could just be honest to ourselves and everyone who supports us positively and NOT use our kids against eachother we would ALL be in a better place… mind, spirit and most important our children’s hearts.

The courts usually give children to the mother, father’s only right is to pay child support and usually every other weekend ( even if joint custody). This isn’t fair, how is that joint? Any more time has to be mutually agreed upon, if the mother doesn’t want the father to have more time with his children, he doesn’t get it. How is this fair. Far to much power for the mother, this just tells men and our society that dad’s don’t matter, only their money matters. This is wrong in so many ways.

I’m a separated Fad in Australia. My wife and I separated in 2015 due to financial pressures of a business failure.

My kids a boy 11 and his sister 13 were shell shocked.

It was never my intent to just be removed from their lives. I had hoped that my ex a d I would do some sort of counseling with the kids but this did it occur.

I set up e rent home not far from the family home but from the day of seperation never had my children stay with me.

The process of alienation had begun…my children were exposed to financial critisisim of me they should never have been allowed to hear. I tried my best to rise above it all and only focus on my love for the kids but would get continual comments from the kids relating to financial issues.

After 2 years of not seeing my kids I tried to take my own life. I connected a LPG bottle to a plastic bag over my head and sat on the couch breathing in the gas.

I text my daughter during this.

I was found by police and friends and spent some time at hospital. Its now almost 5 years since having contact. I pay child support.. I pay all my boys private school fees and I pay 50% of my daughter’s private school fees.

Today is Fathers day…no messages…nothing..

I am a father in North Carolina and all of this is scarily accurate, so I am going to impart advise I was given in the beginning and ignored.

Listen carefully……..

It’s not the family court but greedy Plaintiff Family Attorneys (hired guns) who control the courts……..

If a DVPO is filed against you to kick of divorce proceedings, accept it’s a custody order.

There is a new world order, so

I was told

“Walk away, don’t look back, its not your family anymore, the only person who doesn’t know it is you”

Naturally you will ignore this, but after a long protracted battle through the family courts and losing you will be preaching it.

The article with the four-way cross roads is an excellent summary and thankyou to the author.

Fathers have to accept the facts and move on quickly.

Conversely I heard from many many women I dated the irony is divorced or separated women who later try to date men, men who now can’t avoid this family court ordeal, first sign of trouble and the guys gone.

” Getting a guy is easy, keeping one, the good ones, seems impossible. What we have done to men simply isolates us women”

Good luck.

I could relate to this story.. My daughter lives with her mother around 400miles away. My ex decided to move to her sisters saying she was going to spend a week there to see if I felt any differently about her giving up her job to look after our daughter. this was not something we could afford to do. She left and took my daughter, a week later I went to collect them both. on the drive back, she asked if I had realised that her choice was the right thing to do. I disagreed, She went ballistic! she lasted a few days and then tried to leave without saying anything. I came home to find her clearing out with my brother in law helping.
she instantly set about claiming for child maintenance which effectivly crippled me financially. I was making around £2000 a month and the upkeep of mortgage and other bills came to the tune of £1700. Her sollution was to cut the internet off and get rid of the phone which saved a grand total of £40 per month. The remaining £360 a month was meant to feed and clothe me… Unfortunatley child services did not see this as a necessity so they took £340. leaving me with £20 to live on. my debt increased and I slowley sank.

My ex decided that she wouldnt tell my daughter who I was because ai wasnt able to make regular monthly trips. she never understood how little money I had. we ended up selling the house and my solicitor at the time advised me to give her all the equity on the understanding that she doesnt claim spousal maintenance. My ex recived around £80000. I walked away with my clothes and a tv. I rented an appartment for a bit but couldnt make ends meet. My debt was unmanagemable. I probably got to see my daughter around once every 2 or 3 months. beleive me, fuel in the car took some saving! I tried the train once but that proved to be more expensive and meant I only got a few hours with her. My daughter didnt know who I was… just some random that would come and say hello.

visits got further apart and slowly fizzled to nothing. She doesnt really want to know me. She asked to be admopted by her new stap father. this hurt a lot… I was hoping that one day she might get curious and want to know me. Ive kept up phone conversations and sent her emails and the likes but when I got this news, that little light went out.

people say “you should fight for her” or “how could you let this happen” but it’s all easier said than done when you have no money, not circle of friends (she saw to that one) and an overwhelming feeling that she’s probably better of without you. If I could have given myself a bit of advice back then, it would be dont listen to what she says! dont let her get away with stealing this form you and most of all, make sure you look after yourself.

“Others take the difficult road, and sacrifice years of their happiness, battling on a hopeless battle with the ex, just to maintain some sort of contact with the kids. ”

This is the route I took. It is very hard — to have to think like an attorney — to swat away constant allegations and to work collaboratively to heal a child torn by parental alienation. Early on when our daughter was three years old, I realized the best path forward would be to continually work through the courts to increase time as I could, bide my time, and always be present.

10 years later with $50K spent on attorney fees, there is now 50/50 shared parenting time and decision making. This was achieved *without* my ex’s consent. Each time I requested additional parenting time through the court the ex fought me … vigorously with lies, extortion, and alienation … and she lost.

Today, I am very much a part of my daughter’s life. The ex remains unstable.. but our daughter is secure in my love for her and I am very proud of her. I would do it all again — but I should *never* have had to go to such great lengths to be a father to my own child. I completely sympathize with the father above, and I understand his struggle.

My fight is for all the men who couldn’t … due to limited resources or insurmountably odds. The parents out there who think parenting is a one way street .. the mothers who think you shouldn’t have to co-parent — your days are numbered.

life sucks.. Had my parents divorced when I was young, I believe I would have tried to live with both of them somehow, probably played some kind of ‘he’s mean, she’s nice, she’s mean, he’s nice’ scenaio’s and lived with whoever was being nice at the time (no matter where they lived – leaving schools/friends even), because BOTH had their evil ways! And done so even when I was older even though I realized I was just picking the one I liked at the time.. But kids these days don’t care if one is being left out.. they just don’t care.. I actually thought about this type of thing growing up as it seemed my parents were going to divorce sooner or later, who do I want to live with was CONSTANTLY on my mind… (they eventually did divorce when I was 25 (not long after I left home)… a little too late :/ and I’d wished it had been sooner, like how my kids encouraged me to leave their father.. though knowing how crappy I’ve been treated by men nothing would have changed when/if either remarried.. then it would be 4 morons I would hate and have to tolerate!… on the other hand, as I got older I wished they’d could have stayed together… but it didn’t bother me at all that they didn’t because I was done with the both of them, and dad pushed mom…, though I still ‘loved’ them both ‘sort of’ and called/visited when I could (mom never beat us, she made dad do that, all part of her make dad the bad guy probably – made her just as bad allowing it). Not really sure which would have been worse, 4 morons (and extended family bullshit, hateful relatives, etc. – son/daughter had their ps3’s stolen by fathers live in gf’s son type of thing – of which shouldn’t even be living in the home by court order? haha… good call JUDGE – judges are generally ignorant, they have no clue who anyone ‘really’ is) or just my parents when growing up… yes, I was beaten for punishment, made to go without dinner, soap in mouth, punished for things I didn’t do, made to feel like a total idiot (and still treated this way), yada yada at least weekly. Imagine 4 people doing that? But of course, mom pushed dad.. so it’s over and now the child has to very possibly suffer even more at the hands of even more people.. :/ For many kids, It’s not easy being a kid any way you look at it…
Having 2 of my 3 kids taken from me by my hateful, self–centered, arrogant, narcissistic, vindictive, irresponsible, negligent, abusive ex, their father, for 10 years now and neither really caring to have anything to do with me until they are grown – except to ‘get away from their hateful father for the summer’, 1 now for 3 yrs, and the other is in ‘maybe, we’ll see, I hate dad’ mode… it would appear to me kids don’t give two shits if one or the other parent hardly ever gets to ‘parent’ at all…. because we all suck.

Scary how close this hits to home.
My ex wife left with our child.
My drinking got out of control, then when I found out she was dating someone else. I stopped drinking.
Now her drinking is out of control. She’s dating a different guy she’s bringing around my daughter again. This guy was a former friend of mine, and the situation is hostile. If it gets physically aggressive, I lose the small time I have with my daughter. My daughter told me this guy Spanish her.
I’ll Tomorrow’s my daughters first day of kindergarten. All I asked was for her boyfriend to stay home. He’s going. The guy has two kids of his own, does drugs, and is choosing to go to my daughters first day of school tomorrow just to cause problems.
This is the beginning of me opting out of my daughters life. I’ve jumped through hoops, and my ex has done nothing to take steps forward. My daughters pretty scarred from this, but soon she won’t know the difference. This game is a sick display of power. One person takes steps forward while the other steps back, and my daughter is thrown in the middle of the bullpen.

I am in the same boat , just a Disney land dad every other weekend. Its is very hard to only be able to see kids twice a month not enough time! I feel the same way about everything you said all true. She moved away with kids and now we are about 120km apart, try going to a baseball game after work! ……I could go on here but what’s the point. I to have same feelings, sometimes I just don’t even want to look at kids pictures in the home just makes me sad. Hoping one day when they are older and can deside who they want to live with.

My kids father would actually be more involved, but the kids opted out. From reading most of these experiences, the fathers are dealing with mothers who intervene and intentionally alienate. Not the case here. Issues can’t be left untouched. Hurt cannot be swept under a rug and wished away. Things have to be addressed. I was that parent that kept the lines of communication open for the sake of the girls. I thought that if “if I am good, then they will be good”. Not true. The youngest told me that she had been only putting up with him for me and she was tired of having to pretend with him and “being nice” (I always would tell her to “be nice to your father”). She felt that I was trying to make her care about someone who didn’t care about her. From that day- I allowed her to establish the boundaries that she needed in order to operate. I had one rule: If he calls- you don’t want to talk- you must text or call him back within a day. She didn’t like it, but she did it. They still continued to verbally fight – and eventually communication ceased because a drastic action that he took. The oldest decided earlier on to “opt out”. Because she is an adult – I do not intervene or question her decisions. I did learn something from her experience. Kids will put up a barrier when they’ve been hurt. The barrier is a test! Do you really care? My oldest told me she was expecting for her father to ‘show up” some kind of way to prove that he really did care for her. Interestingly – my therapist had told me early on that is exactly what she was doing. A part of me wanted to tell him “Hey you gotta mend the relationship with “A” in order to smooth out the relationship with “B”….it’s not going to work any other way”……Me doing that would put me back into the “referee” mode that I was once in. I cannot fix or patch anyone else’s issues anymore. Both of my girls have been told- if you want to reconnect and don’t know how- I will help make it happen.

I call BS. Then why are you even reading this if it doesn’t pertain to you. You do realize these are father’s who have been through hell to keep contact with their children. And here you are trying to convince everyone that you didn’t cause it. Shining the light on yourself? I bet your kids think your the best too.

I am a woman going thru this same exact thing! It horrible and dehumanizing. I have not been invited to graduations, first day of kindergarten, nothing! And to add to everything he has a twisted relationship with my mother. I have never been convicted of a crime or been on drugs. Yet , I am treated like a criminal and drug tested 4 times bc he likes to call child services and make false allegations. I am so torn between, I miss my kids so much and this is going to eventually kill me if I don’t walk away.” All of this is happening because he can afford a high dollar attorney and I was simple stay at home mom.

I gave up trying to spend time with my boys. Working a job that broke down my joints and waiting on weekend hoping my ex will let me come pick them up. They were always sick or had plans even when it was my weekend. She said they didn’t want to spend time with me even though they gave me hugs and told me they loved me. I’m moving on too. I don’t want to be let down all the time and to be miserable.

I feel for you brother. Just remember there are lots of us out here. It helps to talk with others who have experienced it. No one else really understand s it.

I’m a father of five with my ex, and two step daughters with my wife. I haven’t seen my biological kids for nearly three years because of her serious malicious lies and accusations.

The legal system, from the ground up has failed my kids massively. Not one department has dared challenge her, all passing it up the ladder until I am now due for a fact find hearing in a heart breaking struggle which has cost me over £10.000. I’m struggling with what to do next. Walk away and save the anguish on both my part and the kids, not to mention the financial burden this is putting on my wife and I, or keep fighting and refuse to give up on the chance to have them in our life. Even if I believe this will not be the end of the attempts by my ex to have my character ruined and my kids ending up hating me.

The system in England is so one sided. She’s now even asking for her testimony in court to be from behind a screen, or on video. The fact she is even being able to concoct this picture makes me think there’s no point. K might as well give my statement strapped to a trolley wearing a Hannibal Lecter mask.

Opposite side of the coin. There have been many times my kids would sit and wait to see if their father showed up. Many games. From kids age 12& 14 , the kids are 19 & 21 now. I was fine with the decision to divorce. I think he wanted me to beg him back? Constant emailing texting and calling me. To check and double check and change arrangements within 1 hr if pick up drop off. I still don’t understand the fighting. He did not hurt me ,he hurt his kids when they didn’t have jackets or shoes. He kept no clothes at his house or toiletries. He would tell the kids he pays me child support so he will not pay for anything. He makes over 120/150 k. But was paying based on making 75 k. When I have a bad break up or dislike someone I avoid them. Not mean but I would not be seeking the person out. It seems he needed to know what I was doing all the time and was on some type of mission to make sure I was punished. I can only say I feel very sad for him. I know the truth. The kids would have to go to visitation because he threatened to call the police for years my son thought he or I would go to jail and was too scared not to go. My kids were always packed ready to go on visits. I still don’t understand why any parent can just forget their parent duties. You can buy your kids clothes, shoes, and toys. There is no excuse for abusing children, they don’t understand. My ex even went as far to take the kids to GameStop. And when they asked for a $20 game( the kids know we can get a $20 game usually 1 a month) he would say it’s up to me and would have to ask me first. He never asked when we were married, of course I trust he could buy an appropriate toy. But it was like telling them I want to buy you this but your mom doesn’t want you to have it. She’s the reason your not getting these games shoes etc. so sad. So the kids do without and still do without. But we don’t have a crazy yelling abusive man living in our house anymore. As a family our stress and yelling and fights all went down to basically zero. It was all him stirring the pot again and again. Sad.

What a selfish, self serving sorry a** person is who wrote this. I won’t even call it a “man”. You notice he pays no attention to the pain and suffering his child will go through because of abandonment by him, because he can’t get his way. A good father will take a bullet a hundred times before he will ever let go of his kid. He will lap it up any way possible to make sure his kid is safe. This person should just get a vasectomy and be done with it. Winy baby, blah blah it’s all about me and my fight with the mother. Not one word about how much he loves and misses his kid. That poor child. I’m the kid of this guy as a grown up. I despised my father ( he’s dead, yea!) and so do all his children. He was the most selfish, lying b*st**d that ever lived. Rich, powerful, manipulative and when he couldn’t make us love him he wanted to just punish us. We suffered very much when he decided to just move away after a couple of years. (Parents divorced by his constant cheating). Never heard from him for 25 years (25 years too late). Well, we danced on his grave and he died with no friends and no one misses him. Good luck buddy. Look in the mirror. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.

I am a father who went through the same thing as the first story. Your father story is different then this one. You sound upset still. The guy in the story wanted to see his children and be part of there lives. He was not your father. When you have a child one day and you do go through custody or divorce get back to us and let us know your story. But your dad story is not everyone’s story. We are not all the same or selfish.

I’m sorry that you are still reeling from your father’s abuse. But it seems you read this father’s piece with glasses tainted by your wounds. This man expressly said he was heartbroken about not seeing his child. That he could not be around other children nor watch movies with children the same age as his kid in them. Sometimes your mental health comes before your kids. You can’t be fit to be in someone’s life if you aren’t mentally stable. This man was suffering from abuse as well. Yes we can all agree that there are some men that are vile and will take it out on their children because of their nature. But there are some women that are just as vile.

So to the guys how did you guys in the beginning get over the feeling of being used as a babysitter to your child. I mean she doesn’t try to keep me away from my daughter but if it was up to her I would have my daughter 6 days a week.

Sometimes, a father doesn’t possess the resources to adequately defend against this kind of rampant injustice. It seems like a never-ending defeat. In my situation, my wife claimed she was in danger and gave up guardianship to her attorney father. I was dead in the water even before divorce proceedings.
Jump forward, after her father fixes things for his daughter, she plans to dissolve the guardianship and act like I never existed. Then things can be “normal” for her again.
This is an epidemic; exacerbated by the family courts. Unfortunately, my finances don’t allow for 5 thousand dollar retainers and 50 thousand dollar bill after possibly unfavorable outcome. I’m devastated.
At this point, I just have to give it to God and be a financial source. For others, keep your head up and do what you can. God knows your heart and he will act upon his time and place.

Suicide is not smart. I tried that and then he got the kids. I did an attempt because he threatened he would get em. What I did was take all the blame on me, tell him I was sorry, always let ex be the boss in any detail, being there as a nanny whenever it suits him. I am lucky that he is a man who after 7 months of stealing them was so tired, that he said thank you when I picked em up. Oh also I stay single and dumped a guy he didnt approve of. Kids go first. But I can’t imagine those men w those monster exes and monster judges. One granddad got so furious he tried to kill that mother. His son gave his own kidney to his son and the monster said he abused him and the Gestapo took the kid. Why does noone start a fight for everyone to get that evil system down?

It is sad that so many men cannot see their children but not all men or women care about their off-spring. My father and mother divorced many years ago, after my father left the marriage for his secretary, whom he subsequently married. My mother never stopped him seeing his two children, but he rarely did. His parents, my grandparents remained involved in out lives. Indeed I’ve always considered my paternal grandparent to be my father.

After 30 years of not hearing anything from my father, except through my paternal grandparents, my grandfather past away and my father attended his funeral. By this time, he had moved on to wife number 3. Who had no knowledge of wife 1, my mother and myself and brother. At the funeral he made all sorts of promises to keep in touch, needless to say he did not. My mother never asked for any financial support from him, even though he is very well off. We were lucky that his parents, my paternal grandparents were always there for us, however this gave him a way of abrogating all responsibility.

Another 10 years further on and my brother is extremely ill, he nearly died. My mother called him, being mindful his current wife doesn’t know he has two children, she attempted just to speak to him. He never got back. I too have made various attempts to no avail.

Finally today I spoke to her and told her the situation. Im not prepared to cover for his callous selfishness any longer, i doubt it will make any difference. And contrary to what he said at my grandgather’s funeral, it sounded like she already knew.

The hurt and pain, this has caused over the years really affectsed me and my brother. But you cannot discount the inate selfishness of some parents.

So for men that feel blocked from seeing their children, I hope things improve and you can atleast show them you care. Because whomever is involved in a marriage break-up, it is not the fault of the children and we are the ones that are eternally scarred.

wow, everytime for the last few years, i come back here to read personal stories to remind myself if what iam going thru is actually just a feeling or the fact. at the very beginning i read a father describing himself as a visiting uncle or a disneyland dad, in his words: I went from the mindset of being a father to the child, to being reduced to the status of a ‘visiting uncle’ or a ‘Disneyland dad’ allied with thinking all the time like an attorney.
it breaks my heart deeply to hear it as i have been going thru this for the last 12 years and still going thru it. for the last 12 years, i have tried my best to be the best father possible even tho my career in the military took me away for months and years at a time. From the very begining , the mother of my child has used the court to control all visitation saying i was dangerous and an alcoholic. I have never had a criminal record and i havent touched alcohol since my daughter was born and i still get letters from her lawyer even after 12 years stating i shouldnt be left with my daughter alone and refuse to let my daughter see me for the summer. I can honestly say its been the toughest 12 years of my life, I have been hospitilized for wanting to commit sumicide, I have been hospitilized for having panick attacks that were uncontrolable to the point of not functioning at work, I went banckrupt financially trying to re-established myself, I was getting letters from her lawyer oversees while on deployment with the military with absurbed financial request, and I mean, this is only the tip of the iceburg I am sharing with you here. So my heart goes to all fathers who are still with us today and the ones who never had the chance to share their stories before it was too late. my daughter is now 12 years old and after much consideration, I have made the descision to stop all direct contacts with the mother of my child which directly affect the relationship between my daughter and I. the pain and the suffering for me has lasted long enough, its time to start a new life for myself. Today my hapiness and my well being is now priority and as i read earlier: Logically, I have to balance the damage to myself, my life and mental health, the possibility of the conflict damaging the child, against the damage done by my absence. God bless us

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